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Please make Godot a subscription service

Erich_L

you know... I don't see the harm in patreon supporters getting access to new godot versions like... a week before it goes public? It doesn't harm anything IMO and could generate a lot of income for our precious few full time godot devs.

DaveTheCoder

I don't see the harm either. But it doesn't seem very useful. What difference would a week make?

And anyone can get access to a new Godot version the minute a change is committed, if he's willing to build the application from source. Preventing that would be complicated and would conflict with the nature of an open-source project.

cybereality

No, I don't think that is a particularly good idea. Since the source is open anyhow, anyone can build at any point for free and it would just add additional logistics for the dev team. Plus, many people use Godot because they can't afford other engines, for various reasons, so it would alienate a large portion of the user base.

Erich_L

I wouldn’t want Godot to not be open source. Building it yourself takes time; people are willing to pay for convenience, and hopefully too if it’s for a cause they support. Seven days or something is nothing. But it’s enough for at least youtubers and really hyper people to get excited about and be financial supporters of the engine. I think people are understanding and wouldn’t feel really alienated if supporters got access to a built exe seven days earlier. I also wouldn’t spin it as “too bad you can’t get this build, you have to wait!”. Anyway in other words, not saying prevent building or alienate anyone. You know there’s a guy who makes Minecraft shaders he’s at 50k a month and you can still easily find where people posted his shaders in other places. It feels good to support something, but it feels a little better when you get something in return for it. I mean what’s the current alternative? The impression I have: get lump sums of cash from companies who then get to heavily influence the direction of the devs? You don’t get any say or get anything for small donations right? My dream is to have my stactory logo on that splash screen page some day. Then I could push 3D! Bwahhahaha.

That was just a random thought tho tbh, probably not the best fundraising idea. Just can’t help but fantasize about more full time devs on Godot.

OpinionatedGamer

@Erich_L said: My dream is to have my stactory logo on that splash screen page some day. Then I could push 3D! Bwahhahaha.

Please do push 3D. 3D is really the feature that needs the most work too me. It's pretty good, I'm making a game with it now, but it's no Unreal Engine when it comes to graphics capabilities. Godot 4.0 should be a huge step forward tho.

cybereality

The 3D in Godot actually works better than many people assume, simply because a lot of the people using Godot are programmers (and not artists) and also the fact that most Godot users are relatively new to game development. So you end up with simpler projects, and since 2D is much easier to code, you end up with simple 2D games. But Godot can totally handle a complex 3D game.

Granted, the default shaders and effects are not on the same level as Unreal Engine. I can be honest about that. However, if you can make (or buy) quality artwork and code your own shaders, I don't see any reason you can't make a AAA game in Godot.

Xrayez

Given the recent news about Godot leadership founding several commercial companies, such as W4 Games, this topic has a new twist of irony now, don't you think? 🙃

Megalomaniak

No.

cybereality

Godot is still free and I doubt they would ever make the engine for pay (that would be commercial suicide). But I do feel that more paid services will be offered, for example porting to console, though this is a feature that users want to pay for.

Xrayez

Yeah, regardless, I think it's totally beneficial to talk about this part of reality behind Godot.

I created a new thread to discuss this: Commercial Godot Engine

Too many FOSS projects went either proprietary or hybrid (quoting Juan, lead developer of Godot himself):

Given many FOSS projects recently went either proprietary or hybrid (and we which we will soon forget in favor of their forks), I want to remind all that Godot is owned by a not-for-profit, so this can't ever happen. Every bit of Godot is owned by the person that contributed it.

This is not to say that Godot is going into full blown commercial proprietary software, of course. But I think it's definitely worth to discuss this.

cybereality

Well, I started working on my own 3D engine, cause I have some weird ideas I want to experiment with. My plan is to continue using Godot for now for some smaller games, since it basically works, and develop my own technology at the same time (which I could port to Godot or not, depending on how things go). This will be a commercial venture with open-source code. I still have to figure out the exact business model, but I think it's important to have open code and also still find a way to make a living.

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