Simple scene drops FPS to 58/59 and it shows a lot [3.5.1 stable / GLESS 3]: Page 2

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Simple scene drops FPS to 58/59 and it shows a lot [3.5.1 stable / GLESS 3]

cybereality

No, there is nothing wrong with the physics engine or Godot. It's probably just an error on their node setup.

I see two problems that are likely causing this. One, the camera is a child of the player. This is not how it's supposed to be done.

The camera should be on the same level as the player (siblings) and you can put a script on the camera that follows the player position.

Second, the camera process mode is on physics when it should be on idle. Unless the camera itself is colliding with things, I think idle will be best as it syncs to the screen refresh or frame rate rather than the physics step.

You can additionally click the smoothing enabled on the camera (after you move it outside the player and place the script) and this will further smooth out the movement for any small frame rate drops.

There is very little reason to increase the physics step in a normal platforming game. If you think you need to do that, it will just be masking a bug, not solving the problem.

berarma

I think I've read Camera2D as a child of KinematicBody2D is the way to make the camera follow the player. Where does it say it shouldn't be used that way?

The physics process mode for the camera doesn't make any sense though. It should be set to idle.

@dandorf, sharing your project would make it easier for other to test it and see what's going on.

cybereality

berarma I think I've read Camera2D as a child of KinematicBody2D is the way to make the camera follow the player. Where does it say it shouldn't be used that way?

It doesn't say that anywhere. I just have a lot of experience and that is what I discovered. Maybe for simple tests you can make the camera a child, but in a real game you need to customize the properties of the camera (such as the bounding box, so it doesn't go past the edge of the screen) which you can't do properly if it's a child on the object it's supposed to be following.

dandorf

I have put the camera as player's brother I have created the bounce with raycast, but the same thing keeps happening to me.

After a few seconds, the FPS drops to 58 and stuttering is noticeable.

I share the test project to see if that helps more.

MEGA link: https://mega.nz/file/a0U33D5Z#rzaYKTiNLf53Q6KqvoCdE3g-cgj5BuMM1IOkHFeP4FA

Thank you very much to all.

cybereality

I'm not seeing any issue here, but I have a super computer so I wouldn't expect any frame drops. The code looks fine to me.

dandorf

What surprises me is that it also happens to me when I run it on my mobile (android).

That's why I thought it wasn't my computer issue.
I thought to make the game for mobile but this error is holding me back 🙁

dandorf

I downloaded Godot 4 to try just in case.

Now I have created the same thing, as simple as possible and with Godot's automatically generated code for a Character2D....

It keeps doing the same thing to me, it keeps giving those "jumps/stutters" that are very annoying.

I have come to think that it could be something from my PC, but when I export to Android it has the same behavior, I don't understand anything...

I have recorded a video with the result in Godot 4. Literally, the code is simply this:

velocity.x = SPEED
move_and_slide()

It can not be much simple.

(second 42) Notice how near the end of the video it stutters even when the FPS is at 60!!!!!!!!! 🙁 🙁

Megalomaniak

dandorf it stutters even when the FPS is at 60

then it's probably not fps related, though also worth noting that the rendering fps is separate from physics step/fps.

duane

I tried to duplicate the issue, but haven't succeeded on my cheap laptop or my old phone. Maybe I'm making it too simple.

https://duanerobertson.com/misc/test30.zip

dandorf

duane I just tried it and I am sometimes going down to 58 and making stutters.

In your case, use _process, but the same thing happens to me. I tried to change it to _physics_process and it also goes wrong, even worse I think.

Doesn't it give you problems executing your project?
It is always stable and there are no stutters???

Thanks to all for the help.

It seems that we will never be able to solve it 🙁

Erich_L

The mystery deepens. OP have another computer perhaps to test?

dandorf

Erich_L I don't have another one at home.

I'll try to tell a friend to try, to see what the results are.

It is very strange, I have come to think that it may be my PC, but then it would not make sense that if I export it to Android it would have the same behavior and it would continue to stutter, right?

🙁

duane

dandorf

It doesn't jerk like your video showed on either of my devices, but I've got different hardware and software. It might slow down a little on my phone, but it's so gentle that I could be imagining it.

Pixophir

dandorf It is very strange, I have come to think that it may be my PC, but then it would not make sense that if I export it to Android it would have the same behavior and it would continue to stutter, right?

For instance if the stutter is caused by another process running periodically and consuming many resources in an already resource-restrained environment, like a weak computer, or a mobile device. That's my opinion of what's happening.

cybereality

Can you list your full PC specs? I see your CPU listed, are you using the integrated GPU? What operating system? Everything updated with the OS and all drivers?

dandorf

PC Specifications:

Graphic card:

How can I tell if Godot is using the dedicated graphics card and not the integrated one? do you use it by default?

exs2

I had a very similar problem. This helped

cybereality

That computer is not the newest, but I used to have a similar machine with a 750 Ti and it could run AAA 3D games at 1080P. It should have no problem with that simple 2D scene in Godot.

Maybe it is using integrated graphics, that is one possibility. Some laptops (or all in one systems) can use switchable graphics, that switches between the dGPU and iGPU, and honestly it never worked.

Or it could be a software issue, such as anti-virus running on the system, or some other background process (cloud backup, etc.). Not sure.

dandorf

I have had the opportunity to test it on a laptop (with worse features than my computer) and the game is more stable, it does not have those annoying stutters!

Sometimes it lowers the FPS but I think it's normal, because the laptop is not very powerful, but it does eliminate those stutters! That's fine.

So it can be deduced that my PC has some incompatibility with Godot... Since running the game in Godot on my PC with both integrated and dedicated graphics, it stutters.

It still surprises me that if I export the game from my PC to Android and try it on my mobile, it has the same stutters as it does on my PC.

If I export to Android from a PC will the game work fine and not have stutters, on Android then will it work fine? I don't understand this, I thought that would depend on the mobile in question!!

You are helping me a lot, thank you very much

dandorf

I come back to the subject...

I bought a new computer, with a RTX 3070 Ti graphics card and I tried to replicate the same game in Godot and surprise...

It keeps doing the stutters every "x" seconds.... The stuttering happens just when it drops from 60 to 59 FPS, at that moment.

I still don't understand why this happens. I think it's the movement of the Camara2D but I have no idea how to fix this. 🙁

If I leave static, even if the game drops to 59 no stuttering is noticed.... But if the Camara2D is constantly moving, chasing the player, there if you notice a stuttering when it goes down to 59 FPS, especially in the environment (the map tiles).

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