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cybereality

Yes, I've heard that before. Well the way I heard it was that in the numbers of Pi, they go on forever and are never repeating. So eventually, if you follow the digits of Pi far enough, you will find the complete works of Shakespeare, Nirvana's first album, and the The Matrix Trilogy.

Audiobellum

cybereality We've technically found them in practice. Haven't we?😊

Audiobellum

Check this out:

Megalomaniak

cybereality It just seems so elegantly and perfectly constructed

“This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in — an interesting hole I find myself in — fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!' This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise. I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for.” - Some guy

We, humans, came up with the models - the constructs to explain to ourselves the nature of the universe, is all.

Also, check out Boltzmann brain, no need for alien super computers.

Megalomaniak

Audiobellum The only thing that would prevent anything coming from the chaos, is if there was some sort of order within the chaos preventing anything coming from it. As order emerges from the chaos, apart of chaos have destroyed itself due to the present of the order it created; causing it to recede.

You are mixing up anarchy and chaos, order and anarchy are simply natural processes/results/polar ends of chaos.

Also you might want to look up entropy.

Pixophir

Audiobellum Here is another hypothesis; everything came from chaos [..] As order emerges from the chaos [..]

Hope I didn't warp your point too much with that selective quoting. Yep, as @Megalomaniak points out, thermodynamics have a problem with that. A closed system can not go into a lower state of entropy. This is only possible locally (non-closed, not isolated), and raises the entropy elsewhere.

When for instance a soup of organic molecules starts to self-organize and after a few hundred million years to self-replicate, than this goes on the expense of an energy source (sunlight, geo-thermal vents, ...) and energy conversion (photo-synthesis, or inorganic chemo-synthesis). In simple words, it takes something from somewhere, uses energy to reshape it and leaves something else behind. When looking locally at the point where that emerges it may seem that some chaos was reformed into something less chaotic (*), but when zooming out we see a planet with an energy flux from in- to outside and a star burning through its fuel.

(*) 'Less chaotic', or 'more orderly' is already a biased concept. Beware of the observer bias, the anthropic principle.

Audiobellum

I should also avoid using words like "create" in these types of discussion. 😆

Pixophir

Audiobellum I should also avoid using words like "create" in these types of discussion. 😆

🤠

Also because creation of the universe has "made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move". (D. Adams)
😎

Just kidding. Again.

Audiobellum

I can't believe this was a thing.

cybereality

I had Sneak King. I don't even eat at Burger King, but I had to get it as a joke. It really was the weirdest game ever.

cybereality

Okay, so I've been playing some retro games, and I think I have a better idea of the style I want to go with. I think I want to start with 2 games, one 2D and one 3D. The 2D one will be flat vector art, similar to Out of this World or Another World. I noticed this was one of the most popular games for a long time, and no one has attempted to make something like it. The art would also be simple and the game would not be too long. Still have to figure out the theme and story, but I want something weird, no dialog or text, kind of confusing. I was thinking apocalypse theme, no zombies, and not hard-core survival, but it might have those elements. I really liked the game I Am Alive, so I might go with a similar theme.

For the 3D game, I want to make a sort of 3/4ths overhead RPG style game, in the vein of Shadowrun for Genesis / Mega-Drive. So it would be in the future, you could go on hacking missions, break into corporate offices, sell guns or drugs on the street, get cyberware upgrades, etc. I don't think I will incorporate the fantasy / magic aspects of Shadowrun, it would be more realistic, in the near future. This was the Genesis game (note, it did not have good graphics, even at the time, but the game was amazing).

However, I want to go with a sort of 3D sprite sheet look, similar to Die Hard Arcade.

But with the lighting style of the PSP, like on Tekken 6.

I do want to work on a high end 3D game at some point, but I think it would be a good idea to start on some easier projects and get them out there first. One, I can get more experience with shipping and finishing something, marketing, etc. And I can start generating some income to hopefully fund a larger project. And no, this isn't the million dollar idea, that is a longer term thing. I'm trying to finish these games as quick as possible. Any thoughts?

cybereality

@Kojack this is why I really bought the handheld:

Kojack

cybereality
I was just telling a former coworker on saturday that I really need to start work on my Tachikoma simulator. 🙂
(We were watching a live demo of the new game (being made by the developers of the awesome game Webbed) that has crazy beetle leg physics)

some_lame_kid

I made a bunny.

duane

Speaking of efficiency of programming languages, I came across an interesting counter-example recently. I've been playing with haxe, and I thought I'd convert some simple python scripts to help me learn the haxe syntax. So, I picked a short one that computes a crc32 of a file and compares it to metadata -- it's about two-dozen lines of code in either language.

It turned out that the python version was almost twenty times faster than haxe compiled to C++, because most of the action was a call to a compiled (standard) library in python. The haxe version has to be portable, so it's written in haxe. I managed to make the haxe library function more optimal, but it still takes about four times as long to compute a crc, and I don't think I can make much improvement on that.

Ironically, that's one of the few scripts I've made that I'd like to run faster. /sigh

DaveTheCoder

The library CRC function might be using a pre-built table, which is much faster than not using the table. In an embedded system I worked on, I used the manual CRC algorithm to build the table during initialization, and then used the table for subsequent CRC calculations. The tradeoff is that the table takes memory.

But that's irrelevant to the point of your post. 🙂

duane

DaveTheCoder

Yep. I optimized it by putting a table in for my version. Oddly, the developer had done the same thing earlier, then rolled back the change -- maybe because the function was being used on short values most of the time. It took about 20s to run a 1.2GB file originally, down to 5s with mine, but python runs it in 1.2s. The time to read the file was negligible in all three.

I suspect that part of the difference in my version is that it's using haxe's safe array for the table instead of a simple array. If you're only indexing with one Byte, it ought to be perfectly safe to just use a C array. I didn't try to find the code python is using.

Audiobellum

It's been a while since I've placed these games so my memory is a bit fuzzy about them. Is there really no climbing up/down ladders in games like( the unmodded versions of) Fallout 3 or Skyrim?

cybereality

Not that I recall, but it's been a while. Ladders are always horrible in 3D games. No one has figured it out.

Audiobellum

cybereality Check this out:

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